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		<title>By: Emergent Church - Does anyone care? &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6549</link>
		<dc:creator>Emergent Church - Does anyone care? &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] anyone&#160;care? March 5, 2008 &#8212; Andrew Conard   I really resonate with Jared&#8217;s post - Emerging Boredom. I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for what has variously been known as the emerging movement, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] anyone&nbsp;care? March 5, 2008 &#8212; Andrew Conard   I really resonate with Jared&#8217;s post - Emerging Boredom. I have lost a lot of enthusiasm for what has variously been known as the emerging movement, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6546</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jared
I do agree with most of your post. For the most part the emergent church does seem to me to be all talk and no action ( all about coffee and candles). The gospel has been nuetered of it power when it comes to the supernatural. Whilst the emergent church is striving for the reframing of the Gosepl message in its correct context etc, it does seem as though there is a blindspot when it comes to the supernatural. If we / they want to live true to the text we need to take cogniscience of the fact that the NT is full of the supernatural, and perhaps we would do well to study and earnestly seek after this truth. 

I do however think that there is great power when somebody helps the poor, when we live simply and save the environment etc . Perhaps there is great power when we do the simple and  mundane, perhaps as much power as when we pray for a whithered hand and it gets healed. 

Thanks for the thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jared<br />
I do agree with most of your post. For the most part the emergent church does seem to me to be all talk and no action ( all about coffee and candles). The gospel has been nuetered of it power when it comes to the supernatural. Whilst the emergent church is striving for the reframing of the Gosepl message in its correct context etc, it does seem as though there is a blindspot when it comes to the supernatural. If we / they want to live true to the text we need to take cogniscience of the fact that the NT is full of the supernatural, and perhaps we would do well to study and earnestly seek after this truth. </p>
<p>I do however think that there is great power when somebody helps the poor, when we live simply and save the environment etc . Perhaps there is great power when we do the simple and  mundane, perhaps as much power as when we pray for a whithered hand and it gets healed. </p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Speedlinking - March 3, 2008 &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6527</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedlinking - March 3, 2008 &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Emergent boredom - Jared White calls the emerging church conversation into question. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Beppo</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6491</link>
		<dc:creator>Beppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  From what I hear, many church movements / denominations are missing the power of God these days.  It seems most of them have a certain focus at which they excel (e.g., being friendly, freedom in worship, teaching, etc.), but few are willing to pay the cost to go "deep" in their walk and depend on the power of God.  It is a more difficult walk, because we have to walk in faith, and we have to attempt things that are bigger than we are if we are to see a miracle.  (Because, if we can do it on our own, what need do we have of the power of God?)  We also have to give up control, to let go of our religious traditions that hinder the Holy Spirit.

I want to see cities transformed, like one story I heard about an overseas city where they rescheduled a soccer game (which is huge) so they could have a prayer meeting in the stadium, with tens of thousands in attendance.  Imagine a MLB or NFL game rescheduled for a prayer meeting in the U.S. -- that would be a miracle!  We need a revival in this country, and God wants to pour out His Spirit over all this nation, but we have to seek Him and walk in faith.  Are we willing to surrender all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  From what I hear, many church movements / denominations are missing the power of God these days.  It seems most of them have a certain focus at which they excel (e.g., being friendly, freedom in worship, teaching, etc.), but few are willing to pay the cost to go &#8220;deep&#8221; in their walk and depend on the power of God.  It is a more difficult walk, because we have to walk in faith, and we have to attempt things that are bigger than we are if we are to see a miracle.  (Because, if we can do it on our own, what need do we have of the power of God?)  We also have to give up control, to let go of our religious traditions that hinder the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>I want to see cities transformed, like one story I heard about an overseas city where they rescheduled a soccer game (which is huge) so they could have a prayer meeting in the stadium, with tens of thousands in attendance.  Imagine a MLB or NFL game rescheduled for a prayer meeting in the U.S. &#8212; that would be a miracle!  We need a revival in this country, and God wants to pour out His Spirit over all this nation, but we have to seek Him and walk in faith.  Are we willing to surrender all?</p>
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		<title>By: www.awesomepurpose.com</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6450</link>
		<dc:creator>www.awesomepurpose.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Finite Calls Infinite is bored with the Emergent Church. What took so long [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ken smith</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6448</link>
		<dc:creator>ken smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jared.  I hadn't put it into words as well as you did.  But yeah, I sense the power is missing.  At first the egalitarianism felt good.  But, where is the power.  Is spiritual authority transmitted through humility and submission?  Is emerging church a style, or is there Spiritual Substance to it?  It sounds a little "tinny" at this point to my spirit.   I'm desperate for more of GOD!  ...fire from heaven.  ...Acts 2!

nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jared.  I hadn&#8217;t put it into words as well as you did.  But yeah, I sense the power is missing.  At first the egalitarianism felt good.  But, where is the power.  Is spiritual authority transmitted through humility and submission?  Is emerging church a style, or is there Spiritual Substance to it?  It sounds a little &#8220;tinny&#8221; at this point to my spirit.   I&#8217;m desperate for more of GOD!  &#8230;fire from heaven.  &#8230;Acts 2!</p>
<p>nice post!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Conard</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6435</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Conard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared - No problem. I will have to ruminate a bit more about a vision for the Methodist Church. I will let you know... Thanks for the offer :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared - No problem. I will have to ruminate a bit more about a vision for the Methodist Church. I will let you know&#8230; Thanks for the offer <img src='http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jared White</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew, I appreciate your interest in my post...I wasn't sure if it was going to resonate with anyone! I generally try to stay away from criticizing any particular ministry or specific movement within the body of Christ, since I believe that differences are permissible as long as we all serve one Lord in one Spirit, but my increasing frustration with what's going on right now just couldn't escape comment.

By the way, I'm very curious to hear more of your vision for where the Methodist church is going. I have a great deal of respect for John Wesley historically and would love nothing more than to see his spiritual legacy be strengthened and renewed for Kingdom work. Please feel free to send any info or thoughts my way...I'll be happy to feature them here on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew, I appreciate your interest in my post&#8230;I wasn&#8217;t sure if it was going to resonate with anyone! I generally try to stay away from criticizing any particular ministry or specific movement within the body of Christ, since I believe that differences are permissible as long as we all serve one Lord in one Spirit, but my increasing frustration with what&#8217;s going on right now just couldn&#8217;t escape comment.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m very curious to hear more of your vision for where the Methodist church is going. I have a great deal of respect for John Wesley historically and would love nothing more than to see his spiritual legacy be strengthened and renewed for Kingdom work. Please feel free to send any info or thoughts my way&#8230;I&#8217;ll be happy to feature them here on the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Conard</title>
		<link>http://www.callsinfinite.com/blog/2008/02/20/emergent-boredom/comment-page-1/#comment-6405</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Conard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared - Thanks for writing this. I may pick up on this theme for a post next week. I agree with the thrust of your post here. I have personally found my interest in the emerging movement within the church to be waning and enthusiasm for particular theologians and  practitioners to be waning. I think that this has been a result of what you name here in the seeming transformation into another social justice movement and also with my own continually renewing passion about the United Methodist way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared - Thanks for writing this. I may pick up on this theme for a post next week. I agree with the thrust of your post here. I have personally found my interest in the emerging movement within the church to be waning and enthusiasm for particular theologians and  practitioners to be waning. I think that this has been a result of what you name here in the seeming transformation into another social justice movement and also with my own continually renewing passion about the United Methodist way.</p>
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